Chip and Agnes Hailstone
Chip Hailstone and his native Inupiaq wife Agnes live with their seven children on the Kobuk River in the North West of Alaska. Chip came to visit Alaska 25 years ago from Kalispell, Montana and he never left. He did not plan to stay, but the opportunity to hunt appealed to Chip.
Chip could easily relate to this lifestyle because he grew up hunting and fishing. Chip is a skilled hunter and uses his antique rifle, a 12-gauge, .22, bow and arrow, and even rocks or his bare hands to make a kill. Chip calls guns his tools and hunting his way of life. The material he needs to make a living is in his surrounding environment.
For the past 20 years Chip has been hunting, fishing, and gathering raw material. Chip’s motto is, live for the day but plan for tomorrow. He goes into each day with his eyes wide open. Death is a large part of his life, but Chip says he is not afraid. Worrying is the first step to protecting himself. Everyday Chip takes a calculated risk. Part of living off the land is being ready, going with nature’s flow, weather, and available materials.
Chip’s family moves seasonally to track down the best hunt, setting up tents in the snow or on the ice, and each of them plays an active role in keeping the family alive: hunting, fishing, skinning, tanning, and crafting the animal remains to trade and barter. They hunt bear, caribou, bison, wolf, fox, wolverine, walrus, fish, waterfowl, even whale and seal. They use the entire animal that they harvest including skin, teeth and bones to make arts and crafts to sell. Chip is happy to have stumbled his way into this world. He first came as an outsider. Now, this is Chip’s home.
Chip and Agnes, lived in Barrow many years ago as a public health officer and veterinarian. Never a big supporter o f hunting but I respect what you do and love your segments. Without hunting you would lose your heritage and quality of life. I love the love you two have for each other and your family. Your values are right where they should be. Unlike others who post here, I know you have the skills and are as capable as anyone. I learn a lot from you each episode. I am currently involved in fighting a local corrupt govt unit and fully understand the hell you are going through. The truth will prevail but in any case yor family and friends will respect you and that is what counts at the end of the day. I wish you two would start a cultural / heritage camp type business. You have so much to offer and it would help people understand subsistence living. For you and your family, I fully support your hunting. Others who disagree have never had to rely on nature for basic survival. What I do not support are recreational hunters that go after big game for bragging rights and do not respect and revere the kill. I fully support subsistence living. Thank you and Agnes for enriching my life. I just love Agnes( my Mother's name) and you for the respect you give to your family and nature. My family name is Bearpaw.
Hi Chip & Agnes,
Looking at some posts here I say: everybody is an expert! Never mind they live in their parents basement and are on social assistance.
All the best
Greetings I just wanted to say that I love you and family. The life you life is hard and yet youi bond with your children and for me this is wonderful. I believe that youi inspire me and others to do better with our own and I thank you for showing this old man that we must pass on things better so our children can live well! I truly could live this life but... my age is now too hard on me but the youth in me... says this is what I could do. I love the cold/hunting and fishing... you are blessed in so many ways. I will be praying fo ryou
I saw the post about the Mini 14 and just wanted to comment.
Although it is not my personal choice for hunting table game, my grandmother took her deer every year with 22.250 in a lever action Winchester shooting 58 grain hand loads with open sites...finally hanging up her gun at 62 years of age. As far as i know, she never lost a deer or had to dispatch one with a second shot and always made her tags. She also was known to tarnish the reputations of grandfather's hunting partners on occasion by out shooting them them with their own rifles. Grandfather shot a sporterized Enfield and used 168grain Hornady hand loads. I know because i still have several boxes of his since 1986. i remember him taking Blacks with this round several times. He also shot a 30 40 Krag with 220 grain loads and this was usual bear load.
All this being said, knowing your quarry, your rifle and your skills are tantamount to success, I would not necessarily hunt Caribou with a 223.....but it can be done.
I wish they wouldn't let there daughter shoot large game with a .223, Unlikely to make a quick kill.
I usually don't make comments on such things as other people's lifestyle choices unless invited, but having some insight into where you come from and what you are up against, I will say this: DO NOT EVER QUIT !
I have little time for those who give long speeches about what they say they've done and even less for those who tell you how you should handle your business...just wasn't brought up that way.
I understand the limitations of a television presentation even if it is a "reality" show....I also know the harsh realities of Inuit way of life. You truly are the beneficiary of an ancient and rare blessing and it is evident in the small segments available to viewers through the show. Character, Integrity, Accountability, Respect...To Learn, Teach, Share...everything. And always together. I know exactly why you stayed.
Anyway, that's all I wanted to share. Let your family be encouraged by this note....as I am sure they already know what kind of man their father is.
I would appreciate a reply to know you got this message.
I love this show, and as far as I am concerned, the Hailstones ROCK ! ( pun intended ) We homeschooled our kids many years ago , and they helped us build our home in the country . For a time we lived without electricity and plumbing. We consider those times some of the best of our lives. Now my husband hunts with our grown children & their children. Wish we'd have made the choice to move further into the wilderness . You are all so blessed. One has only to see how much you all seem to enjoy being together, from watching Agnes teach " the girls" her skills, to your coaching and back-up in hunting & fishing, to know hard work , good character, and love are the back bone of your family.
We record this show and watch it with our grandchildren, your family is our favorite !
I am sorry to read of your troubles and hope the truth prevails.
I love the Hailstone family ! We home-schooled our kids while we built our home with their help. No electricity & plumbing for quite awhile. Those were some of the best times of my life. If we could do it all over we'd have moved to Alaska to homestead. Now our kids are grown. My husband hunts with our sons and grandkids. All is good ( hard work for sure ) but how much better to be able to hunt, fish, and raise your children like Chip & Agnes. I love seeing how much fun your family has together rejoicing over hunting victories and seeing Agnes teach the girls her many skills.
I am so sorry about your troubles Hailstones, but your family life speaks volumes about your hard work, love, and honorable character qualities. I am thankful you have allowed cameras to follow and document portions of your amazing life.
BTW, I record your program and watch it with my grandchildren. We all love your family.
I just love those girls. They are adorable and helpful!! What a great combination!! I wish them all the best!! I am sure that you are very proud.
This family is awesome, Love watching and reading about there adventures and life.
Chip , Agnes and Kids keep up the great work ... and aim true ..
Finally got my whitetail buck with my new to me but old Mosin Nagant
I think this family is awesome. I enjoy greatly watching this show. There are very few people left in this country (sadly) who would have the motivation and tenacity to live and work this hard. I admire their traditions and this show is a great way to learn about it...THIS is the type of show I want my kids to watch. Living and working 9-5 in the concrete city is NOT the only option in life. Life is what you make it.
I know that this has been asked more than once, and I have seen some of the possible answers but nothing definitive. Having lived in WA state I know that native Americans can do things in areas that are off limits to non-natives. So why does Chip not hunt or fish? I know there has to be a reason besides some of the stuff I've read here like "He's a bum". Anyone with the real answer please respond. Thanks
ii would like to say I love the show, but it bothers me when you take like smelt with eggs in them. I live on lake superior and the smelt are gone because of what you are doing. And its not only that you go after the eggs, what is the next generation.And on another show they were all mad because they closed a fishing season because low fish numbers. Its just does not make sense
Awesome show: Chip,Agnes and family takes the cake, Love for each other and family tradition being passed on to the young'uns, Keep up the good work, and keep enjoying your inspiring way of life and each other!! A-ho Wakan....Great Spirit Bless!!
My husband I and I just stumbled upon this show a few days ago and IM HOOKED! Agnes is always so positive and patient, not only on the hunt but also with the kids. Her bravery on the ice after the tragic death of her family member is inspiring. My husband and I hunt together and I LOVE Alaska. I have always wondered if i could make it out there. You guys make it look easy! Thank you for sharing your world with us :)
I am glad I read the comments...my husband and I love the program and did wonder why Chip seemed to let the women folk do all the hunting. Now I understand the reason. I am sorry that your have had such troubles in your lives.
Keep the faith and continue entertaining us here in Michigan.
Rickster here, I love your show. But, I don't think a mini-14 in .223 cal. is a round I would be using on a caribou. It's also an older mini, I've had a few in my time. Now the Mosin Nagant that Agnes uses has got 30/06 horsepower, but you need to practice your accuracy, as it's heart breaking to watch you try to kill a caribou from what seems like hundreds of yards away. And even with a soviet sniper scope, you still are not connecting with lethality. Practice, practice,, practice. Then make sure you use the same ammo you used practicing, for the hunt. Save the mini for medium size seals, or get an accustrut for the barrel, so you can do head shots at close range. I hope that the show is paying enough to make it worth your time. I bet you never thought you would be TV stars did you? I have always loved National Geographic magazines, and I love watching you guys. My advice on guns comes from many years of hunting, and collecting firearms. I notice your accuracy is the subject of many emails from fans. Maybe the crew could delete the "misses" when you are on the hunt. Enjoy!
Chip, love you and your family!!! I love watching the kids grow into adults and into their own... keep up the great work!!
I am not Pita by any means, dad started me hunting at 8. However after tonight's episode I have to say something. Wanting Agnes and the kids to learn to hunt is wonderful, but the fundamentals are first and for most. Being a retired sniper and hunter all my life, there are times you just don't take the shot. Most of the time, that's when your not sure you have the shot in the first place. To let a animal suffer because of this is UN-called for. There have been shots taken in prior episodes with you claiming you missed "oh well," attitude. While I was not there and can't prove other wise because of camera pulling off the animal. Two times I know there was a hit, and just give up because of time. ( Another the shot should not have been taken.) After tonight watched Agnes miss while the animal was laying down, then chase it (no telling how long,) instead of shooting and putting the animal out of suffering.
Please teach them Not to shoot unless they are confident in making the shot. (not bouncing up and down in a boat.) Most of all teach them how to shoot.
Again I think what you guys are trying to accomplish is wonderful, and I'm not trying to be judgemental. I have yet to see a clean kill from you guys yet, and can't stand UN-necessary suffering.
Get rid of the husband. I'm disgusted by seeing those woman make his way as he hides behind all he doesn't do!!!
He can't fish, he can't hunt. He has ill words to speak, as for being lazy to shut up and deal with the pain. He wouldnt exist without his wife and daughters sustaining him. He's a Cancer to.his family and to.the show. Can you PLEASE omit him asap.
It's amazing how all other non native men off grid have rights and abilities to provide, yet he worthless!!!
You all need to stop hating on Chip. None of you know the story let alone be hard enough to live in conditions like he does. I believe that some of the AST are crooked because there are crooked cops all over the country. Alaska is different because of the remote locations where cops are like its still wild west and the troopers can do whatever they want in these small comunities because its your word on theres. There is less of this in the lower 48 because the cops are often around more witnesses cameras and this gives them a "checks and Balance" mind set. In Alaska the cops know they are in remote areas and can do what they want knowing that its word for word. Now not all cops are rogue the majority truly do there job with integrity. This guy on here and I won't say his name is posting some hater stuff about chip. Its easy to sit on your couch eating snacks and talk trash behind your lap top. You don't know the story guy and don't believe everything you find on the internet. You live in a bubble guy and you wouldn't last a day in that life. I can tell because you spend all your energy finding trash on the internet to form your opinion on an issue you really know nothing about. I bet Chip can hunt better then most of these "sport" hunters in the lower 48 who are hyped up on testosterone and pay money to hunt big game in a fenced in area where they just use the head to mount on there wall throw the meat out with no respect for the animal. I think you should find out why you are so angry that you need to bash Chip on here not knowing the story. Maybe you are jealous because you wouldn't be able to make it in that life style or you have absolutely nothing better to do, or you are not respected in your life and know how much respect are given to people that live this way. Who knows I'm not a Dr nor do I have time to figure you out. I'm just saying to all the haters on here waiting for Chip to prove something. He needs to prove nothing to you. Living the way he is the love he has for his family along with fighting the wrong doing by crooked cops in the court shows me he stands for more then all the haters. Chip keep up the good fight and good luck with everything. To all the Haters keep hating because if it were not for you we would have no love.
Great show. Love watching the kids take part in gathering food and building shelter. Watching Agnes teach the kids how to make a seal skin vest or butcher an animal is awesome. If every parent took the time to teach their kids respect of their heritage and respect of nature, but most of all respect of one another, this world would be one big Alaska. Not perfect but a lot better than the violence we see on the news every night. Get rid of the Xbox and get out and enjoy nature.
Be proud of what you're doing for your family.......Never apologize for defending them.
Why focus on Agnes? Because she is a Native Alaskan woman, and Im just the
5th white guy moved up on the show. If they followed me more, you'd
see less of her and think she's lazy......if you know Agnes, she wont
allow anyone to sit still when she's busy,
especcially me,~~LOL!!~~....but I LOVE seeing my wife and kids on the
show as much as I possibly can accommodate it. Do you want to see her
skin Seals or teach a daughter a tradional Inupiaq value or lesson? How
about do or make something "Eskimo"?? Well, I cant do any of that, nor
can anyone else on the show, 'cept Agnes and the kids.........but I did
homeschool them for 7 + years when we were free to roam, tent around and
live with the game. We laugh at the show sometimes allright, like
seeing Agnes Shoot a Moose, but not me skinning and butcheriing, and the
trecherous walk throut 50 yards of willo tangled along the rivers edge,
to the boat, Agnes parting Willows, me packing loads of meat right
behind here, working together.....but they just skip to the Kitchen and
makeing the meats meal sixed.....LOL!! Being born here and of
uncountable generations of family roots in this area, Agnes , being a
Kuvvanmuit Inupiaq is a shareholder to vast tracts of Native lands,
owned in common buy the Tribes here. I am not a shareholder. I cannot
dig fossils (mammoth and such) or dig minerals with out a permit. I can
watch the boat and walk below the high tide line, and watch the bank
for bears while we move along as well as the washed mud Im floating
over, as that is "public" being the Ocean, and legal for me to "tusk "
in , going along with everyone climbing and such, doing my
thing.......Because I have Native children and am married to a Native
wife, I can hunt , camp, fish and gather on their lands to support my
family properly. However, only Natives such as Agnes and my kids can
legally hunt Walrus, Polar Bears, Seals and such,
while I cannot, according to the Marine Mammals protection act. Read
that as "Federal Prison" for those who get caught doing such.Any
dwelling mammle is open to hunting for her and any Native that resides
on or near the coast with customary and traditional ties can participate
in the Subsistence hunting of them. We have Seals swim right to the
village, here on Kobuk River Delta. I can hunt Caribou and most anything
on land, set traps, fish and such, but often they see what Im up to and
film, then Agnes shows them her way or a different way or what ever
were doing , and in the end, its what the editors show in convaying the
story. Its not reenactments, just action, and she does unique things, I
do long, boreing , mundane things, as well as drive the boat, drive the
nmachine and concenntrate on the drive (theres no trails or roads, its
ALL X country rideing,, just ride a motoX and youll see, at -20 its a
physical beating) and she rides comfortably behind looking for game and
not worrying about crashing, and thats an old team effort, just now she
does all the shooting insted of 1/2 or so.. Theres alot of time not
shown, traveling and wood cutting, cooking and cleaning nd building, so ,
belive me, we stay plenty busy.
Also, I was
framed for a felony "Purgery and False reports" when I got a restraining
order to protect my daughter when an ASST assaulted her and another
restrained and detained him.......when I complained, I was promptly
charged and convicted by Alaska State Troopers, who tampered with the
only evidence used against me in the court. I could not win the fake
evidence and also that the Off duty AST who testified on his time off
work brought a gun to the court, illegally, . The PD played the most
obvious cuts 3 or 4 times in front of the jury when my wife testified to
the attack, and he never denounced them as inadmissible, a felony and
illegal as hell. He didnt play my tape of my interview with the AST's
ABI either, as I couldn't testify because I didnt want to be shot. I
had the tapes analyzed by two audio forensic specialists, Sand Castles
recordings in Fairbanks, and Brite Solutions in Anchorage and both
scientifically prove that the audio tapes the Alaska State Troopers used
against me was tampered with. The Judge was given the results at my
sentencing and became rather upset I saw (I was given 7 years, 3 months
total (3yrsX2 + 15 months)and he let me out untill retrial, and thats
been more than 2 years now. Agnes and my daughters were present and saw
what happened and know I was doing it for them and that I didn't lie,
and that this was done to me by criminal Alaska State Troopers and those
who cover up for them. Agnes has my back!! Damn right on that one, by
Nat Geo also does a Troopers show, so they avoided the issue, but now
that they are not on Nat Geo, we think this needs attention as it is a
part of my life,.......so for two years now, I cant carry a gun, not
touch one, or freely roam, so I stay busy and she does too. Do you wann
see me remodel our house , now that were done with the adition? or cut
more wood for daily heat, or cook? Ha, its crazy, but the best story is
the true one, one I can prove with court/public record, and thats the
story above. The two perpetrator AST, their StG, who was present a the
court and at the sentanceing yet lets these felons run freely, and the
LT from the ABI all have full knowledge of the felony evidence tampering
and yet stilll do nothing. It was even in the news paper, evidence
tapering and all.
OK National Geo quick question...I watched the show for an hour, how come I see the same old commercials about 10 times. The same ones over & over again. Who is doing the commercial selling in your dept.? Just wondering.
@Scott Fuss Scroll down to my Nov 11th post here, it explains all
the ammo for the .223 has come along way so try not to be so judgmental over it.
did u see the epi where there hunting from the boat with the .22's ?? head shots!!!
when your hunting for food you do what you have to.
Tim Brandt, Federal Premium Public Relations Manager. “We have several .223 loads featuring a couple different bullet options that are designed especially for hunting. Our Fusion line is great example. We see excellent weight retention, expansion and penetration from this bullet in the .223 platform. Hunters that live in areas where it’s legal to use this caliber should have no problem finding an effective load to take into the deer stand.” Tim also included the following test data, which shows that the average Fusion bullet penetrated nearly 15 inches of gelatin and expanded to .54 caliber. Most of a bullet’s expansion happens within the first inch or so of penetration which means that the Fusion load effectively sends a .54 caliber ball through the vitals of its intended target. I observed recent tests of the DoubleTap load with similar results.
good ammo and shot placement is the key ..
good thing she didn't have a bow huh ... u think that is a clean kill
when your hunting for food and the supermarket is 3K miles away
you do what you have to ..
keep shooting kids :)
I know there funds are limited, so I am willing to give her a 270 with a scope. it dosent kick hard but will kill.
@Robert Carter If you scroll down and read, then follow the links I provided, you will understand fully. I pretty much gave a full explanation below. on the Nov. 11 post
Who says I dont fish? I fish alot, although I cannot show the girls "Inupiaq traditions", simply because Im not Inupiaq, so maybe the 3-6 minutes they show Agnes instructing the girls is a little missleading? ~~LOL!!~~ They dont show my trapping much , either 'cause theres allready a "Trapper" cast in to the show. Dosent mean I dont do it,just means they dont use the 12 minutes we are shown to show such. No big deal to me.
We have intact fisherys here, and the Smelts, Salmon, Shhefish, Cod , Halibut and are caught for our personal used, not by trawlers or purse seiners, so no one is wipeing out any fish. The stocks we fish have never have been wiped out or had restrictions applied as there is very limited fishing going on. We have 9,000 people total in a region larger than Indiana in size.
The fish are gone from any Lakes you live by because of what you folks were doing, not us we are literally 1,000's of miles from you...... Your damage was done by commercial fishers in an unrestricted commercial fishery.We use dip nets and catch hundreds, not the millions commercial fisherys do.
This isnt a fishing show, no fishery's here were closed due to low numbers, we actually had an extremely large run of fish, and so many were in the river here that alot were killed from having too many fish breathing, and died lack of Oxygen in the waters.
If there was any indication of low fish stocks, we wouldnt target those fish. Smelting has gone on here for thousands and thousands of years.
The Bering Sea and the other heavily fished areas of AK are all to the south of us by hundreds of miles, our stocks come from The ChukchiSea and the Arctic Ocean.
When theres two cameras filming, and both angles shown, the number of shots shown is doubled. Would be worse if there were three cameras.
Also, many times they show one Caribou, not the3-5 we get when we hunt, it took a long time to have them get with that, they have a real "one deer a year' idea ro something. If you watch the episode in the mountain they show One caribou down , not the three that were , and they show multiple shots, and in the middle of all the shooting edited in Agnes says "I got that one on the first shot!' . Same happens with the very first caribou she shot on the show, for them it was just "too easy" and the edits are obvious. You see, one shot hits are not the drama they need to grab the audience, so youll see some shooting, a commercial and then some more. On the last episode Agnes closed as close as she could but used the scope. It shot under the Caribou's head, so she ducked the sights and nailed it. When things go bad, we keep on trying. They wont edit out miss's, that the drama the seek, so its quite the opposite. We also wont edit out the reality of hunting, and thats that the animal isnt being slaughter'd in a chute with a "humane" rod to the brain, its trying to get away, and while we could have scrapped the day , EASILY, and noone in TV land would have a clue, kinda like the Hunting shows on TV, all perfect shots n all......we dont, 'cause its a case of when things go bad, we keep on till the jobs finished, and thats how it really is.....were not actors, we have no scripts.
@Jay Pope read what Chip wrote a few comments above,(@Richard Littleton) the show edits and shows the parts they want, there would be no show if they kept showing one shot kills.(@Robbie Elters) I agree....
This family hunts to eat. Their idea of a good shot and ours is totally different. When you walk a mile in their shoes your opinion might mean something. I can't stand UN-necessary and irrelevant posts.by someone trying to push their values on someone else.
Hailstone family keep doing what you are doing. Don't let these keyboard hunting gods bother you by posting their idiotic comments comparing their hunting style to yours. You know what works for your family. You have a great family and Thank You for sharing a glimpse of your lives and how you live them.
Your as full of crap as a Thanksgiving turkey. You obviously did not do any research before making such a ridiculous post. It's laughable.
@brasilian cutie You obviously don't know Chip's full story...and to say he does nothing is laughable! Research before you speak next time!
@N. Wesner Indeed, A Hunter I was, certainly not the best, but it was my life. http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/110992-A-calander-of-my-life-as-a-Subsistance-Hunter-Fisher-Gather-r
The AST that framed me are criminals, I do not belive they are all that way by any means. These crminals make good Troopers jobs hard and the mistrust from the public. Law and order are out of wack anytime criminals have badges and everyone suffers for it.
Notice the middle paragraph?
@Patrick O'Byrne It means I listten to my children and spend time with them. I actually have alot of storys, and I have written quite a few over the years, pictures and all. I let my kids participate , they dont sit at a desk and learn, they learn bu doing, so sometimes I take my hands off what Im doing and let them. I did it with my sons as they grew up and both are keen Hunters with their own familys. letting them do something and not doing it forthemis proper for a proper learning experiance. Besides storys after a hunt are also a learning experiance, and when my Court issues are over, I shall show you just what I can do. Untill then, try look at the link, thers alot to see and watch.
@Edward Hailstone @Richard Littleton Damn I'm impressed, you must spend a lot of time on the computer answering peoples questions. I really respect that. However you didn't mention the comment I made about using the mini for caribou. It sounds like you are a hunting brother with a lot of experience in firearm calibers. A 30 round mag doesn't make up for not having enough energy to kill an animal of that size consistantly. Here in Washington I do not think it's even legal to use such a small round for big game. Thanks so much for taking the time to answer, I will continue to be a fan of the show. Man , I work in the largest mental hospital in the state. I wish it was legal to create a reality series with my job, the stories I can tell in all the years I've been doing this. It would make a great series. It would also make a good sitcom. Enjoy! Thanks again.Rick
@Edward Hailstone This was published almost two yeras ago, so the evidence tampering is old news paper, and the courts/sentanceing and yet no charges are pressed nor are the AST involved fired, they continue, as far as I know, to be among the public. The cover up isnt going to last
Listen and hear one of the obvious cuts in the Alaska State Troopers Audio, made and kept by them and scientific proven to be tampered with..... felonious evidence tampering was done to conceal the crimes I reported and got the protective order for. this was played in court, and so were the cuts, so the AST has full knowledge of the felonies that their Troopers commit to cover up for their fellow criminals. This is public knowledge, a matter of court record. No one starts a conversation "sooooo tell me about....this is something unrelated,..." without a conversation not to be related too....He basically cut out the threats and he made. Theres many other alterations too, but those will be coming out in Federal court as the lady's have a case being put together to clean up the AST.
Its freeze up here, thin ice and bad traveling, so I have time to read/answer folks who are fairly sane and polite. I used to be interested in photo journalism in high school, so when the camp correspondence program for home schooling ended and we moved the kids to the village, I bought a computer and a digital camera and made $$ employing myself.....and those storys caught someone attention that led to them finding us and getting onto Nat Geo. The link I provided below is one good story. Theres alotta trolls too. No,I didnt mention the Mini or the only clip it came with. Im no fan of large mag's but you use what you got, and that was her first experience with such, a rifle she bought for herself and give a try, and she did...... and I think she's a bit wizer for it, and that was 6 + months ago and she's bought a few more rifles since for herself.
It seems that this has to be reloaded a couple times to get it to work properly....strange, indeed.
@Edward Hailstone @Richard Littleton Very interesting chip, but I'm afraid the laws will not let us do a reality series in the state hospital. Thanks again for taking the time to answer the fans of your segments of the show. Apparently, few of you do. I've written to some of the other people from other segments and they don't seem to answer even simple questions from fans. You all take care up there, have a great Thanksgiving, and above all BE SAFE! Rick