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By Patrick J. Kiger

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Centennial Park, a tiny community of less than 1,500 people residents nestled on the edge of Colorado City in Mohave County, Ariz., isn’t a place that stands out in most ways. The median household income of around $45,000 is a little below the statewide average but still respectable. The typical Centennial Park inhabitant is 38 years old, commutes to a white-collar job in a neighboring town, and lives in a household with children.  

But there is one striking difference between Centennial Park and most of the rest of America. Almost all of its inhabitants are members of a breakaway Mormon sect that still practices polygamy, or plural marriage, in which one man generally has simultaneous relationships with multiple wives.

The word polygamy carries with it ominous connotations. For many, it may conjure up images of primitive tribes or ancient kings, or of lust-crazed cultists hiding out in fenced-in rural compounds with harems of teenage girls forced to marry against their will. But based upon various journalistic accounts, those conceptions seem to bear little resemblance to the staid, clean-cut lifestyle followed by the residents of Centennial Park.

"I'll just come out and tell you, I feel very blessed--this lifestyle is wonderful," one of Centennial Park’s residents, a businessman with three wives, told TV reporter Lisa Ling in 2007. "We bring these women into the home and they are treated incredibly. They have every convenience and every single thing that can be provided for them. So it's a very mutual relationship."

Richard’s wives, Ling discovered, turned out to be in agreement. “"It's our choice. We wanted to," explained one, who noted that nothing prevented them from leaving if they became unhappy. And the three were so comfortable sharing a husband that they had become close friends. So close, in fact, that if Richard ever died, they “probably” would simply search for a new husband for the entire trio.

They aren’t alone in their enthusiasm for plural marriage. Even though marrying more than one woman is technically illegal, researchers at Brigham Young University have estimated that between 30,000 and 50,000 Americans live a polygamist lifestyle, according to a 2010 Public Radio International story.

Polygamy has existed for thousands of years. Most ancient societies were polygamous —in the Old Testament, for example, King Solomon had an astonishing 700 wives  -- is still practiced in parts of Africa and the Middle East. In Europe, however, the classical Greeks and Romans established monogamy as the legal norm--though in both societies, men still were allowed to have plural relationships with female slaves) —and it’s stayed that way ever since.

It was in America that plural marriage first reemerged in western culture. In the 1830s or 1840s, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints founder Joseph Smith, after being asked by Old Testament leaders had multiple wives, claimed to have had a revelation that his followers should practice polygamy. Beginning in 1852, when an LDS leader named Orson Pratt made a public speech defending plural marriage as an important tenet of the faith, the church began publicly to encourage members to become polygamists. According to Utah historian Jessie L. Embry, however, only a minority of Mormons who settled Utah actually followed that directive. Those men who did usually only took two wives, who usually lived in separate homes and raised their children separately, with the husbands visiting each household periodically. But different LDS members handled plural marriage life differently. “There were no established rules about how family members should relate to each other,” Embry wrote in the Utah History Encyclopedia. “Instead, each family adapted to their particular circumstances.

But Mormon polygamy met with disapproval from other Americans. In 1854, the Republican Party denounced it and slavery as the “twin relics of barbarism,” and in 1862, Congress outlawed it in the territories by passing the Morrill Act, which was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1879. In 1882, Congress passed an even tougher law, the Edmunds Act, which made polygamy a felony punishable by five years’ imprisonment and a then-steep $500 fine, and disqualified polygamists from holding political office or serving on juries.  

In 1890, the church finally relented. LDS President Wilford Woodruff publicly issued a statement recommending that Mormons “refrain from contracting any marriages forbidden by the law of the land." In 1910, church leaders prohibited the polygamy outright, and excommunicated anyone who had entered into a plural marriage after 1904.  

But some Mormons believed that the church wrongly had given in to government pressure, and refused to obey. They broke off to form a splinter group, which took root in Short Creek (now called Colorado City), and other towns along the Arizona-Utah border. 

The presence of the polygamy colonies didn’t sit well with Arizona law enforcement authorities, and they repeatedly raided the towns. In 1953, the battle culminated when Arizona police officers and National Guard soldiers entered Short Creek and took most of the community into custody. The effort to eradicate polygamy backfired, however, when public outrage over the seizure of the polygamists’ children led to Arizona Gov. Howard Pyle being voted out of office. Thus chastened, law enforcement authorities pretty much turned a blind eye to the polygamists for decades, and the polygamist communities themselves grew increasingly insular and suspicious of outside authority.

With little outside scrutiny, the polygamists became increasingly powerful and autocratic in their isolated corner of the Southwest. By the early 2000s, the main polygamist group, which became known as the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, had grown to an estimated 10,000 to 12,000 in strength, and largely controlled the communities of Colorado City and Hildale, with its influence extending even into local police departments.  Warren Jeffs, the leader of FLDS, had so much power that he sometimes “reassigned” families, taking away the wives and children of men who were deemed unworthy, and handing them over to other men. Teenaged males often were expelled from the communities, so that they would not grow up to compete with older, more powerful men for wives.

Ultimately, after allegations of child abuse and other misconduct inside FLDS, law enforcement officials again went after the polygamists. In 2011, FLDS leader Jeffs was convicted of sexually assaulting two underage girls, and sentenced to life in prison.

The polygamists in the Centennial Park community are a separate group from FLDS. They broke away from the main polygamist community in the 1980s after a leadership dispute, and resettled on land outside of Colorado City.  For the past several decades, the two factions have lived side-by-side but pretty much avoided contact, according to a 2012 thesis by Southern Utah University graduate student Michael K. Ault, who spent extensive time interviewing families in the Centennial Park group.

Unlike the secretive FLDS, the Centennial Park group has chosen to interact with the outside world, appearing on TV programs and giving media interviews in an effort to improve polygamy’s unsavory reputation. A website maintained by an advocacy group in the community says that it is against the coercive practices—such as underage girls being forced to marry older men—that got FLDS leader Jeffs into trouble. Instead, Centennial Park says that its aim is “to achieve a political and social environment within which both polygamous and non-polygamous cultures may comfortably fit into an integrated society.”

33 comments
Roger Jain
Roger Jain

Hi,


I got your id from the national geographics website story on polygamy.
I am 30 yrs young man and my wife is 26 years young..we are currently based in the philippines..both of us have a stable job...
After seeing the series on the subject we did a lot of research to understand the true preaching of the Almighty and got enlightened...We now want to start a polygamy family here in Manila and would like to get someone from the community who understands the lifestyle and the requirements to take us the second lady of the house...Some who knows the spiritual context and who is willing to move in with us here...we will use her experience alongwith ours to create a community here...
We need your help to be able to take this forward...please let us know the next steps or what we should do..
Regards
Roger & Rodgen

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

My suggestion is that if you cannot contact them, then start your own group. All faiths are above human or physical existence and no one group can say that they have a monopoly of any faith including the omnipotent knowledge of the Godhead the Creator. Anyone can give customer suggestions unto dating sites to incorporate polygamy, and polyandry (female polygamist), lifestyles as alternative choices for their customers. These sites do it for other unorthodoxy lifestyle concerning human rights, so why not for polygamy and group marriage communities.

With the legalization of these last two categories for marriage, the spectrum of human rights for marriage will be finish indeed. They are issues that need to be legalized in order to complete Heaven Almighty's works for freedom above moral tyranny which are the faith, feelings, and will of fallen angels and false gods of heavenly intellect and sensations of illusions. Legalizing polygamous and group marriages advances the cause of fulfilling old and new prophesies as stated by the teachings of righteousness. The fulfillment of all righteousness, and their principles of goodness, must be completely done on earth as it is in heaven by the true believes of heavens, the Heaven of heavens, and finally Infinite Heaven of which the three works as a trinity of One unto the Supreme Being.

Furthermore, do not confuse bigamy with polygamy. Polygamy/polyandry is when all members involved know of each other. But bigamy is when a person takes two or more spouses who do not know of each other thinking that they are the only spouse unto their lying so-called monogamous husband or wife. Bigamy and Adultery are crimes against Humanitarian Justice being Fraud and braking an agreement of commitment before God Almighty, the government (dealing with wedding licenses or survival agreements), and the community as witnesses including friends and family.

However, if you still do not know were to start, than you can seen me an email at FundamentalTruth@aol.com. I don't mind posting my email and not afraid of any risks involved for the sake of helping to unite and coordinate a good cause. Confidentially will be top rule number one. Only serious minded people as believers and coworkers should contact me. Fakes of games and players need no waste my time with their lying sins of trickery against the righteous including the Father and Mother of the righteous Him/Herself. Hope to hear from somebody soon, but if not, then at least I gave it one more chance for this site. Thank you all for your time and consideration of my efforts to enlightenment from the evil of hard feelings of animosity against each other over victimless lifestyle. Here's Wisdom, if someone does not put their hands on you, then do not advocate legal persecution by police and military against the innocent who are not trying to outlaw your monogamous lifestyle and choices. Who's really on the wrong side of right and wrong? None violent polygamous, or monogamous who are telling politicians and police personal to arrest the innocent? Amen.

Loyally yours forever.

Ultra

Lacy Sipes
Lacy Sipes

How does one get into contact with people from Centennial Park? I know they may not want people to have full contact information so that they can have peace from those who prosecute them, but how do those who hold interest in joining the community get in touch to discuss the aspect of moving there and learning to live the lifestyle the way they have put it in place? My family is very interested in living in such a community, though currently we are a monogamous family with no plural wives.

J Black
J Black

As one that is drawn to this lifestyle as juvenile, how would I get in touch with a member or the Brethren? I don't feel I can go to my bishop as we know what would happen.  I seek counsel with Brethren  or a wife.

Russian Kahn
Russian Kahn

We do as americans have a constitutional right to practice our religions, BUT ...not when it involves breaking the law. Colorado City AZ  pays a little over $78,000 per year in taxes, yet gets over 8 million dollars in aid from the government, mainly for food stamps and free medical care each year.They do this fraudulently, by claiming the "extra" wives as single mothers. As for God making 4 women for every man, you should check out gender demographics for our world population . As of 2010 there were 101 men on the planet per 100 women. So I guess women need to flip the script and start taking more than one husband? You can try to wrap polygamy up into a pretty package and put a bow on it, but it is still a form of female abuse. In my opinion any woman that would enter into this kind of life style has either been brainwashed , or they have such low self esteem they don't feel they deserve anything better.  For you people that are making excuses for these polygamists, you obviously have no respect for the laws of our country. Mitt Romney's grandfather moved to Mexico so he could legally have 5 wives. I suggest people that have religions practices that are illegal in this country do the same, move to a country where you can practice your religion without breaking laws.

angie dailey
angie dailey

I will start out by saying I am a christen. even  though  I believe in GOD  the GOD I believe in said one should not pass judgement! really what is the difference between the polygamist who come's  out on tv or lives  secretly in the world because of fear ?  some wont  call them selves polygamists or even say they worship from the morman bible. because of retaliation . what is the difference?  A man and woman get married, they have children, then he decides to move his girlfriend into the house,  they have children. I happens all the time in the world. The only problem is people close their eyes  and turn the other way! Upon watching the  show some of the adults say they are fearful of being arrested and separated from their families, on one  episode I believe it was the first crawley  wife said she was the only one legally married so for tax purposes it was better for her to stay  at home and take care of the children. you really have to ask yourself how many people do you know that have done the same? not because of more wives in the house but to get one over on the government? i guess my question is did they marry their other wives in church ?in front of GOD ?the cameras didn't let us in to a wedding ceremony. we should all remember one that cast the first stone!!

AJ Brady
AJ Brady

I have no questions just a comments.  We are free according to the US Constitution.  I am not Mormon but I believe in religious freedom.  If everyone in the home is happy and chooses to be there then I believe that it is okay.  As long as the children as they grow they are aware that they do not have to chose this life and can still be loved and not shunned by their families if they leave the lifestyle.  Because this is a lifestyle that would not be for everyone.  I can see women not being able to handle this and having issues of jealousy.  I do understand that this sect of Mormons believe they must do it to get to heaven but that is not part of Bible teachings; Old or New testament.  This is a teaching of Joseph Smith.  Can anyone be sure that he was a true prophet of God?  Did we know the last names of any of Christ's prophets?  Just like Jehovah's Witnesses who claim that they are the only way to God how can Mormonism claim the same?  They can't.  Christ said Follow me and I do.  Also in the book of Revelation John said, "And I John looked up and saw a multitude I could not count from every tribe and every nation."  Many will be saved.  Let's open the real box here.

Lori Bond
Lori Bond

. I can see the reasoning behind the commandment but these people do not have a belief in the Restored Gospel if they practice polygamy and look at anyone other than Thomas S. Monson as the Prophet,Seer and Revelator  on Earth today. If they believe Joseph Smith was the  Prophet then they believe the gospel was restored through him and that the Prophet is the mouthpiece of God on Earth today... Wilford Woodruff was the Prophet when the doctrine changed. It was not an easy decision to change the doctrine and he prayed on it just as JSJr prayed on the act of plural marriage when it was indoctrinated. Wilfred Woodruff knew that if the doctrine stood the church would fall. He did as the Lord bid him and we have flourished with millions of members in every country and temples in nearly every country as well. What he predicted would happen has happened for the apostate churches that have left the church. It is very heartbreaking .. I see them teaching their children and they want the same things we do but it will not happen unless they repent and follow the doctrine of the true Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. These people in CP may call themselves Mormon but they are not. Mormons follow the doctrine and believe Thomas S Monson is the true Prophet. 

W GLENN
W GLENN

I'd like to know how these husbands can afford more than one wife and a house full of children.    I have a good job but I and my wife and my two children have money problems.

Ronda Renfrow
Ronda Renfrow

Why did the Lord allow many wifes????  Why did the Lord make 4 women to 1 man.  The Lord never said anything about his prophets and men of Israel having more than 1 wife.  I am alone.  Yes the church needs to take care of women who are widowed or left alone, but they dont.  The Lord is my husband, but If i lived in a household that we all take care of each other.  It is not about sex.  It is about community and taking care of women who are alone. There are 4 women to 1 man.  The ratio is kinda odd there... Kind David had many wifes. Jacob had 2.  Hannah's husband had another wife.. 

Ronda Renfrow
Ronda Renfrow

Why did the Lord allow many wifes????  Why did the Lord make 4 women to 1 man.  The Lord never said anything about his prophets and men of Israel having more than 1 wife.  I am alone.  Yes the church needs to take care of women who are widowed or left alone, but they dont.  The Lord is my husband, but If i lived in a household that we all take care of each other.  It is not about sex.  It is about community and taking care of women who are alone. There are 4 women to 1 man.  The ratio is kinda odd there... Kind David had many wifes. Jacob had 2.  Hannah's husband had another wife.. 

Ronda Renfrow
Ronda Renfrow

Why did the Lord allow many wifes????  Why did the Lord make 4 women to 1 man.  The Lord never said anything about his prophets and men of Israel having more than 1 wife.  I am alone.  Yes the church needs to take care of women who are widowed or left alone, but they dont.  The Lord is my husband, but If i lived in a household that we all take care of each other.  It is not about sex.  It is about community and taking care of women who are alone. There are 4 women to 1 man.  The ratio is kinda odd there... Kind David had many wifes. Jacob had 2.  Hannah's husband had another wife.. 

Matthew Gettys
Matthew Gettys

I do not like how this show does not go into detail about how not all Mormons believe in, and practice, polygamy. The LDS church outlawed this practice many years ago and this "FLDS" church is an embarrassment to Mormons. Mormons do not like to be embarrassed or even scared to express their religion because of these sorts of portrayals. I am awesomated.

Delia Perez
Delia Perez

Julie: People have that perception about them because it IS, as you say, "disgusting, gross, horrible, perverted!! PERIOD.

Julie Mackert
Julie Mackert

It was sad to see how many people were so angry and upset by this attempt to dispel some of the things people think about polygamy. It is hard for me to understand the harsh judgement of this program. It seems that people have no problem watching tv programs depicting all kinds of lifestyles that I will not go into here. There is nothing wrong with watching movies where people are butchered with chainsaws and worse, violence towards women seems to be so common that it is what draws the biggest crowds. And yet just put a documentary on tv trying to show the truth about how a community lives and believes...the strong faith they have, the love for one another, families teaching their children a love for their religion and a respect for their elders...this documentary receives comments like...disgusting, gross, horrible, perverted!! I'm afraid this is the normal response when it comes to this subject.

EVANGELIST RODGERS
EVANGELIST RODGERS

This is not godly. This is not ordained by God in this dispensation of time. This is why you cannot follow after anyone who comes along saying they are sent by God. 

Anyone not adhering to bible instructions/commandments; rightly divided by God's one true prophet in this dispensation of time (the last of the last days), and in this part of the vineyard who speaks for God truthfully, and without compromise; a man after God's own heart, and whom God has truly sent.("By their fruits ye shall know them" Matt. 7:16,20 K.J.V) you will know them by how their lifestyle lines up with bible instructions/ commandments; rightly divided.  God said: Jer 23:21  I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jer 23:22  But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.

I thank God for blessing me by leading me to his one true Prophet, Bishop H. Prophet Walker (truelightpentecostal.org) whom does not lead the sheep astray as these lost, and simple souls are doing.

You must understand biblical dispensations of time:                                                                                                             Act 17:30  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:     (at one point in time God allowed for men to marry, and take on additional wives, and concubines to grow of the seed of Abraham a great nation, also for the sake of an Hebrew male whom has married a woman, but died to not be left without seed unto his name sake.; in such latter cases, the brother of the deceased was to marry the widow in law to give children to the dead brother's name., but from the very beginning God set up the family structure to include one male husband having one female wife from whom would come the children (Gen 1:27  So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28  And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.                                                                                                                                                                               Gen 2:22  And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
Gen 2:23  And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Gen 2:24  Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Gen 2:25  And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.   We see here God's institution of Monogamy.

This monogamy was further fortified with the coming of the New Covenant, and it's laws about divorce, and fornication; Heb_8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.  Many of the practices, and allowances under the Old Covenant were done away with, and or no longer tolerated under the New Covenant, i.e marriage laws:

Mar_10:11  And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
 Luk_16:18  Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery.                                                                                             1Co_7:2  Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.    (SINGULAR, NOT PLURAL)

 1Th 4:1  Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us how ye ought to walk and to please God, so ye would abound more and more.
1Th 4:2  For ye know what commandments we gave you by the Lord Jesus.
1Th 4:3  For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication:
1Th 4:4  That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;              

ESPECIALLY THE LEADERS MUST HAVE ONLY ONE WIFE:   1Ti_3:2  A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
1Ti_3:12  Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Tit_1:6  If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

EVEN AS GOD LIKENS MARRIAGE AS BETWEEN THE LAMB AND HIS WIFE (SINGULAR) MEANING THE CHURCH OF COURSE (BUT ALSO SINGULAR AS GOD ONLY HAS ONE CHURCH HE IS COMING BACK FOR)   Rev_19:7  Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 

YOU SEE POLYGAMY IS A SIN WHICH SHALL NOT GO UNPUNISHED:   Rom 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 

ESCAPE GOD'S WRATH TO COME AND COME UP UNDER THE BLESSED TEACHINGS OF GOD'S TRUE, ONE AND ONLY KNOWN PROPHET TODAY; THE ONE, BISHOP H. PROPHET WALKER. BEFORE IT IS EVERLASTING TOO LATE.

AND BE BLESSED.



Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@J Black My brother you are correct. Sometimes it is hard to form a relationship with those who should be of the same beliefs. You and I can form a group together if other believers are to inconsistent to measure back unity on earth as it is in perfect heaven. We may not agree with all things from the beginning in reference to other subjects, but to start with partial unity will equal into complete agreements with all things. This is the nature of the Almighty Truth and its' faith to eliminate false ideas from our belief system with higher revelations of the truth and genuine nature of all subjects. I am for social activism and the fulfillment of complete freedom of human rights above moral tyranny a spirit of hatred that appears to be of heaven unto the conscious or souls under the influence of its' deceptive unjustified animosity against the innocent of victimless lifestyles. Their are polygamists websites out their but beware of the fakes that like to try to play you for a fool. For the time being, one of my other web blogs is www.MySpace.com/Ultra-Goddism. I'm not absolutely asking you to believe in my spiritual opinions, for we are all different fruits of angelic art before the Godhead, but we all must agree with the truth, peace, justice and equality, and all righteous principles which are not a religion that are absolutely controlled by any group of religious people. No one people or angels control heaven or the Creator, and righteous principles are the personification of His or Her eternal principles of justice and equality to be one with the Creator above pride and oppression from spirits and humans forever.

Richard Hutchison
Richard Hutchison

@Russian Kahn

You need to check your demographics, If you are talking marital aged individuals it is 95 men to 100 women.  And as the economist Steven K. Landsburg noted in his book The Armchair Economist monogamy was created to assure that men have power over women.  It is monogamy that abuses women..

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

P.S. Yes women can have more than one husband. They have already did this throughout human history.  You can do the research. Freedom and freewill is the right choice to perceive and believe as righteousness will cancel out unrighteousness and its' trickery to manipulation the conscious into unprovoked animosity against others.

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Russian Kahn Here's an idea to consider and another piece of the perfect explanation of the universe and how all things work concerning psychology, biology, and physics. Dealing with physics and the right to survive with justice and equality, which laws are you talking about...just laws of justice and equality...or unjust laws of social supremacy? Remember women did not have the right to vote and we all know now, even as the faith in other back then knew too, that such a law was wrong against freedom for women. A woman has a right to choice to join or not to join. Women against women is another divide and conquer technique of male chauvinism. Ironic that male polygamist are for women freedom yet woman are against a woman's choice. All should rethink what is what unto the higher calling of the Almighty Truth. Absolute facts known are not an illusion of the mind or trickery against the truth itself.

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@angie dailey Yes, some laws have to be change for us all to get rid of vicious paradoxes that creates problems against family and individuals as well.

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@AJ Brady I agree. One of the biggest fallacies or lies that religion does is that now others can be saved but by them. This is not true and I speak as a prophet knowing the trade of spirituality and the mysteries of Heaven Almighty. I state that we all are equal. This faith is purposely design to undermine and cut religious supremacy to nothing as pride shall be abased. All religions are equal and this authority by the Creator prevents religious genocide that comes from fallen angels of bigotry and angelic traitors allowing the Devil thinking that they do God Almighty a service. No one prophet is the only Teacher Of Righteousness. Even philosophers and scientist which are not religious faith, but they can teach on the things of theology. All prophets are equal such as freedom of religion on earth as it is in heaven. Finally, yes Joseph Smith wrote a bible which contain many ideas of the Bible itself. But remember, the prophets do lie and part of my works of the final messages of the Godhead is to edit out the mistakes and lies of the prophet and angelic trickery for uniting Mankind with the perfect truth of all subjects debated.

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Lori Bond Yes. Consider the other blogs that I have said unto others. Let the genuine truth be networked throughout the whole Earth for World Peace sake. All must agree with to live and let live. I have a lot to write but little time and little help for doing it. Thus bits and piece have to work for now until another book of mines can be completed and professionally published.

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@W GLENN

But with modern times, consider this idea, that if a household does not have enough income between two members, then to bring another person into the marriage can increase the finances for the group. Now if one man and one wife are struggling with finances, then another wife would be able to bring in another paycheck for the bills if she has a job or is will to get one.

Also, consider this point of view. Let’s say that a father had only one wife and together, they had five sons and five daughters. As the sons became grown, they went independent and built their own farms, houses, and got married. However, as the daughters became grown, there were no other young men available to marry them. This was so because the young men, who may have two wives already, could not afford to provide for a third wife. Therefore, the daughters are stuck at home.

Now with this idea, the father is now taking care of six women. The first one is his only wife and the other five are his adult daughters. Now all can see the point or the paradox that somehow, a provider could or is still going to have to take care of more than one woman in his life at some point even if they are his daughters. Thus the stay at home daughters most likely will have to work somehow anyway such as in the fields as gathers of plants for food or wood for fire. They will have to go to the market place to sell things to bring back finances and resources to the family. Therefore, as it was in the old days, it is also true in these modern or latter days that women, or any dependent like teenagers, will have to work sometimes in spite of having a husband to provide. A man may be the predominating provider, but the wives and children will have to help him to take care of the household and family somehow. Thus perfect polygamy should be for love in essence, and let the money issues work themselves out with righteous judgement. Furthermore, of course it is not materialistic for a woman to look to marry a man with money as a good provider. Yet some man consider poor are good providers with nice TVs, cars, stereos, and cable though they may not own the house or apartment that they are renting. But a polygamous marriage may be for spiritual and religious reasons in the case of forming alliances which is love to unite people, and to demonstrate the omnipotent love of the Creator.

The absolute is that polygamy is not a crime against humanity or Humanitarian Justice and therefore it is a legal and a victimless lifestyle. But the people who are abuser of women and children and committing forced marriages are not to be arrested because they are polygamist. But are to be arrested because they are criminals against humanity such as abusers and rapists. This is the same as to say that a monogamist rapists and womanizer should not be arrested because he is a monogamist, but because he is a rapist, abuser, and male chauvinist against a woman’s freedom of choice. It is also true that a woman can have more than one husband too.

Finally, in reference the complete dynamics of what is legal humanitarian matrimony, group marriages, (in the case of two men and two women or more living together as a marriage group), are legal too. This is true as freedom is holy before the Creator of Humanity above the moral tyranny of false-creators and religious beings of fallen heaven out of the divine faith of true righteousness which is the teachings of holiness, judge not condemn not, and above morality. Therefore, what is marriage such as what is truth? Marriage is any faith that forms a legal agreement between two or more human individuals.Thus a survival agreement as the psychology of science and human rights gives us freedom against religious and political persecution from others. Others who are not faithful and true to In God We Trust, the Creator, Who is still justice and equality and a separation of church “religious laws” and state “the laws of human rights” from humanitarian, and not social supremacists, according to the laws of science such as the right to survival without doing another wrong. Remember that freedom is good and holy and oppression is unholy such as the case with moral tyranny to take away freewill from the innocent.

Sincerely, Ultra Godd

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Ronda Renfrow

Dear Ronda.

Yes, it has been that way since the creation of human existence by intelligence design. Sometimes symmetry or a balance in an order is thrown off and other righteous principles much compensate to reestablish harmony and balance in another form. As others have stated, such as sociologists, men die at a faster rate than women. This is obviously true doing wars or social conflict. Thus polygamy is a solution against this dilemma when the object of righteous principles is to prevent wrong doing such as adultery and bigamy. Adultery and bigamy are crimes against humanity because they are fraud against the other partner(s) in the relationship. Also, a person(s) who commits adultery or bigamy become liars against the Godhead, the government, and certain or all members of the community.

Also, yes it is true and righteous that you can say that you are married to the Lord. This faith is only symbolic and poetic. It is not to be taken literal such as the Lord is some spirit sexually romancing you and you are Mary the mother of Jesus. Hercules was a child considered of supernatural conception too by Zeus their name for the God of gods. But we know that Hercules never walked the face of the Earth. Thus all of those religious stories are not to be taken literal, less they become lies against the literal truth of scientific explanation of all things including how the universe can to be. The universe is absolutely made by true scientific teachings and not made by false science or inaccurate perceptions of science, and it is not made by religious mythologies. However, though religious stories may not have happen for real or to be mythological, but the spirits of gods behind religious stories are real entities. The righteous teachings of these stories through the prophets, philosophers, poets, singers, and all great thinkers are to be done literal in this dimension even to consider to be done with elaboration. This is so as for us to reflect being loyal to righteousness, (with logic or ultra-logic), and equal to that of loyal angels and the Creator from the dimension of heaven.

But if some misinterpreted your statement of “married to the Lord”, then that is their error. All they have to do is repent unto the truth that I just have stated to you. But it is true to beware of seducing spirits of sexual iniquity trying to get you to serve them for the reward of their lusts. For they like to try us all especially us new seers and psychic bound and destined for perfect heaven. This I tell you as a Faithful and True prophet of all heavens, the Heaven of heavens, and Infinite Heaven. It is true that made He both male and female as the Christian standard goes still loyal to the Creator above the fallen Christian of pride against Heaven’s New Thing from God Almighty. But if we are having problems against the enemy such as sorcerers of invisible persecutions, then angels will fight with love to influence us with love and paradise against demonic lust and impotency. Also, there is nothing wrong with celibacy or not to marry for a good reason. The reasons are several such as a person does not have a desire for companionship; or you cannot afford it such as not to get “burnt” by gold-diggers just looking for alimony or palimony even if they are men.

Finally, in spite of the fallacies of Christianity, but based upon holy interpretation, the conception of Jesus, as the story goes, was not from some spirit of supernatural sexuality. It was done simply by the Holy Spirit energizing the egg in Mary with mind-over-matter. It is the same sensation of artificial insemination by science and doctors without the sensation of sex for a baby to be conceived. So, as the Almighty Truth goes based upon the God of Science, the Creator working in another form such as the evidence of things made, remember that science is a spirit, but it is not a religion. This is true of the difference because the dynamics and laws of scientific judegment that are different from the dynamics and laws of religious judgement. Also, as religious teaching inspires people to persecute other, for being victimless sinners or so-call sinners, the nature of science and humanitarianism respects the wellbeing of all people, faith, cultures, and victimless lifestyles to survive without wrongdoing against others or wrongdoing persecution from others. This faith of none religious psychology of righteous believers respect to include human rights, from Father Science and Mother Nature, for the atheists as well.

Sincerely, Ultra Godd

Mohammed Ahmed
Mohammed Ahmed


@Ronda Renfrow

Yes Ronda its true that Lord made 4 women for  1 man,  He is the creator and you cant question Him why??? 

He creates What He wills.. Lord allowed it so  His prophets had wives. Later people changed it i guess. 

And saying Lord is my Husband is a very big mistake and you should not say that. He is the most High. He is our sustainer , we are His servants. 

Yes you are right that some authority has to look and take care of women who are widowed or alone. so Why are you alone? find a righteous partner....  

Lord has made the nature of men to be plural, but women who Go plural are crossing the limits coz Lord does not allow it and you dont see it as a practice of our pious pre- decessors.. 

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Matthew Gettys

Dear Matthew.

Be not ashamed for help for you and the world is not on the way, it is already here, especially inside of me from childhood though I am a man now. Joseph Smith is a true prophet, but he mixed in some lies with the truth of the Godhead just like the other prophets. As I am a living witness, the supernatural is full of trickery and may attempt to get me to give in, but it will never happen says the strength of the Creator in me. I will not bow down to worship their lies and commandments of moral tyranny against World Peace and Justice and Equality from the true or genuine God of Gods. Don’t give up and stick with the patriarch Joseph Smith above other Mormons going astray from his original solutions from God against a gender imbalance in the order.

Rebel factions, sects, and denominations have always deceived the people from new things from heaven. When this happens, it creates new problems, especially ideological animosity, against the solutions to end the problems we suffer. But this time, the last rebels against the Creator are my own kind already falling away from the Lord Almighty Who is our First Mind of new solutions. As a righteous teachings goes, many times, the Creator is first, the original version of a given standard, then comes the enemies of demons, fallacies, and flunky hypocrites to deceive whom they may from the works of the original solutions. To create ideological strife and confusing is just like the nature of rebel humans against justice and equality and their false gods whose spirits in their human fruits or people are not inspiring Peace Once And For All. Again, be not ashamed and don’t give up. However, I do understand how the wicked put us all to shame. It is part of their devices to try to break our emotions to serve their hatred and false righteousness. Yes, it is a shame, amen.

Sincerely yours, Ultra Godd

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Delia Perez

Dear Delia,

I’ll give you the same message I sent Julie. What about the serial monogamist divorcing and remarrying. Some people believe that lifestyle if perverted such as to share private parts with many others. Even as the lie goes, if you sleep with one person, then you sleep with everyone that person has slept with. This is another one of those moral lies to try to stop “perversion” as so-call the wrong way. If you shake hands with one person, are you shaking hands with everyone he or she has shaken hands with? If you eat from a fork of a restaurant, are you literally eating out of the mouth of hundreds of others who have use the same fork? Something to think about against mudslinging and stigmatizing right?

Yes, you are telling the Almighty Truth too against the hypocrites. If they perceived offense by this statement, (as the mystery explains to me that I reveal to you), then they are hatred against the truth of righteousness which includes justice and equality; even judge not condemn not. However, the righteous will rejoice and feel good at the perception of the truth and righteous teachings. The wicked being blind or “perverts of false thinking” such as double stand judgement and “perverts of false emotions” such as hatred, will always feel offended by love for the truth. It is even true that to desire truth, and all righteous principles, is true love unto the Creator, heaven, and eternal life.

Just to prove a point, not to be taken for real again freedom of expression, all of the Christian movies, which includes Passion of the Christ, can be judged as wicked perverted expressions. How? Because it demonstration the beating of Christ, and thus can be misinterpreted or wrongly twisted as a is subliminally message telling the world to kill Christians. But the righteous knows that it is only a dramatization of good versus evil. Another example is that any story about slavery is not to degrade people of color or white slaves, but is just a dramatization of social events or good versus evil. So, consider this how the Devil or a false angel can pervert people’s hearts and minds to take away freedom of expression behind false-righteousness. With censorship, he, the Devil, or they, false gods, are destroying the truth by outlawing it in an attempt to get rid of evil. But demons, such as the occult, does not want the innocent, especially the young, to know of its existence. This is so because uneducated victims are easy targets compared to would be victims who know of secret wickedness. “Where is the evil” would become the spirit of a lot of people including children to make then more apathetic and insensitive to social injustice because of the lack of personal experience or seeing the horror on TV; a good way to stimulate feelings against evil as it was done in the 1960 of the United States. All must see and know evil to develop a serious mind to fight against it. As wisdom teaches, the road to hell is pave with good intentions. To make the statement semantically correct with elaboration, the road to hell is pave with so-called good intention of pseud-righteousness and plain evil.

Sincerely yours, Ultra Godd

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Julie Mackert

Dear Julie.

Yes, you are telling the Almighty Truth too against the hypocrites. If they perceived offense by this statement, (as the mystery explains to me that I reveal to you), then they are hatred against the truth of righteousness which includes justice and equality; even judge not condemn not. However, the righteous will rejoice and feel good at the perception of the truth and righteous teachings. The wicked being blind or “perverts of false thinking” such as double stand judgement and “perverts of false emotions” such as hatred, will always feel offended by love for the truth. It is even true that to desire truth, and all righteous principles, is true love unto the Creator, heaven, and eternal life.

Just to prove a point, not to be taken for real again freedom of expression, all of the Christian movies, which includes Passion of the Christ, can be judged as wicked perverted expressions. How? Because it demonstration the beating of Christ, and thus can be misinterpreted or wrongly twisted as a is subliminally message telling the world to kill Christians. But the righteous knows that it is only a dramatization of good versus evil. Another example is that any story about slavery is not to degrade people of color or white slaves, but is just a dramatization of social events or good versus evil. So, consider this how the Devil or a false angel can pervert people’s hearts and minds to take away freedom of expression behind false-righteousness. With censorship, he, the Devil, or they, false gods, are destroying the truth by outlawing it in an attempt to get rid of evil. But demons, such as the occult, does not want the innocent, especially the young, to know of its existence. This is so because uneducated victims are easy targets compared to would be victims who know of secret wickedness. “Where is the evil” would become the spirit of a lot of people including children to make then more apathetic and insensitive to social injustice because of the lack of personal experience or seeing the horror on TV; a good way to stimulate feelings against evil as it was done in the 1960 of the United States. All must see and know evil to develop a serious mind to fight against it. As wisdom teaches, the road to hell is pave with good intentions. To make the statement semantically correct with elaboration, the road to hell is pave with so-called good intention of pseud-righteousness and plain evil.

Sincerely yours, Ultra Godd

EVANGELIST RODGERS
EVANGELIST RODGERS

@Julie Mackert 

Greetings in the matchless, and all powerful name of Jesus Christ, The Almighty. (Rev. 1:8 K.J.V)

I wonder if you consider yourself christian? You know, Christ like?  Because Christ Jesus submitted himself to the obedience of his own word, along with a few introductions to a new, and more perfect way to come with the coming of his death, burial, and resurrection (The New Covenant); which, by the way, does not authorize multiple marriage partners, nor unions of fornication, nor, what man terms as, common law unions.

However, it does command those who would take upon themselves the state of being as "christian", and "saved", and whom would call upon the name of The Lord Jesus Christ, and have sincere and true hope of entering into Jesus' heaven, to keep, with slight modification; being a delaying of the penalty as, under grace people are given a chance to repent, certain commandments of the old covenant (which relate directly to that which you attest to not appreciating/ being afraid of, and that with which you seem to side; and keeping in mind that Jesus will not transgress his own word/ commandments ( Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.)  such as:    Deu 12:1  These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land, which the LORD God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that ye live upon the earth.
Deu 12:2  Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
Deu 12:3  And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.
Deu 12:4  Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.
POLYGAMY DEFIES GOD'S DIVINE INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT GOD WANTS FOR THE FAMILY STRUCTURE HE CREATED. MAN CANNOT ADD TO, NOR TAKE AWAY FROM THAT WHICH GOD HAS ORDAINED.  (Deu_12:32  What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. )  AND CONCERNING THEIR FALSE PROPHET, AND LEADERS:      Deu 13:1  If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2  And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
Deu 13:3  Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deu 13:4  Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.
Deu 13:5  And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.     (THE ENTIRE CHAPTER 13 IS PERTINENT TO UNDERSTANDING THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE GALL THESE PERSONS HAVE IN TRYING TO ENTICE OTHERS TO SIDE WITH THEIR SINS)

EVEN THOSE WHO GO ALONG WITH THEM ARE ACCURSED:  Gal_1:8  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal_1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. 

 2Jn 1:9  Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10  If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11  For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Rom 1:32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. 

AND AGAIN; Job 34:32  That which I see not teach thou me: if I have done iniquity, I will do no more.




A true christian would not side with any opposition to God's word/ commandments or instructions which come to contend against God.  Satan is the adversary that contends against God/s word.  So, according to scripture, are these polygamists christian, or satanic?

And, by the same token, which are you?
KEEP IN MIND THAT IN THIS DISPENSATION OF GRACE YOU CAN STILL REPENT.       Job_34:32  That which I see not teach thou me: if I have done iniquity, I will do no more.


 

Coco Moss
Coco Moss

@Ultra Savage @AJ Brady ..  YES you are both are right to question " The Book of Mormon"!!! But  at the same time you are to narrow minded and ignorant for your own good by not questioning the origins of the "Bible". do you know who wrote it for sure? who compiled it for sure? ... or you just believe the "Bible" is the only true word of god because of GOD HIMSELF told you it was? Or is it because you believe it  because that is the more "Normal" and accepted belief?  PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN  and think about it. I am not Pro nor Against the Bible nor the book of Mormon, believe me but I have a brain and I use it to think and learn. I came to the conclusion that people who are so against one or the other are not really using their brain to ask themselves 

Is there any factual proof of one being the real deal and the other a fake?  Was I present when they were written and witnessed both events to be able to so firmly believe that one is right and the other wrong?  Is my faith what guides me to believe in one and not the other?   hmm-mm well faith is something we learn from our environment, from the people around us as we are learning and developing our belief system.   NO ONE is born with a certain religious belief or fate!!  as I said before, we learn from our environment.  

Ultra Savage
Ultra Savage

@Mohammed Ahmed @Ronda Renfrow

Dear Mohammed,

There is nothing wrong with women agree with polygamy. This is their human rights of Christianity as it is with Islam. Don’t play mind games with the sheep or chosen ones. This is not the Perfect Will of Al-Khaliq such as Allah Almighty Whose perfect will is to complete all righteousness and the doctrine thereof. If I, raised Christian have proven that Christianity is not perfect as Mohammed the prophet preached against the pride of Christianity, then the paradox is that Mohammed is not the seal of the prophets or the last prophet, but I am, parallel with other modern day prophets if they do not fall to the way side from believing in the faith of perfect doctrine in me. As Almighty Wisdom has taught and trained me, no one is an enemy against me until he or she makes his or herself one. I still have faith in the doctrine, policy, and motto of all alliances for World Peace that an attack on one member is an attack on all members. Thus respect women’s rights above Islamic chauvinism. This means their rights to drive cars and to be in the military. One reason why western culture dominates the global is because of their faith in science and human rights, peace be unto you.

Sincerely, Ultra Godd