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Constantinople Fort

Photo: Josh Klein standing by the walls of a former fort

Photo: Josh Klein standing by the walls of a former fort

Photo by National Geographic / Lizzie Abbott

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Photo: Josh Klein standing by the walls of a former fort
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Santa Sa
Santa Sa

What Constantinople ? Where is that, or when ? Is that a place you / he "linked" with Renaissance in one breath , hence directly connecting ancient Greeks and their wisdom with western civilization, modern science and philosophy, and eventually modern day America ?

I presume, since you are not the first to take that "shortcut", you won't be the last either.

Nat Geo is doing fine job - hacker (?), young face with glasses and all, shamelessly and annoyingly selling same old misconception on the Renaissance - an old misconception sold on us by pretentious late 19th and early 20th century European nationalistic intelligentsia, completely prejudiced and determined to degrade Islamic-Arabic civilization with brand new "science" called "orientalizm", which used to be excellent background for European imperialism and colonialism.

This shameless and annoying revision of history is still live and well - ancient Greek-white-Christian-European wisdom takes on a journey from Constantinople to Florence , after Ottoman-Turks (Asiatic barbarians of course) conquered the "City", and since "City" has long been known for being place full of enlightened Christian scientists, they embark on a journey to Florence in stream of refugee scientists fleeing their town and streets now in total mayhem, and of course they grab the one thing they know will be essential in saving their lives while they are on the run as well as saving humanity, and eventually reinvent the western civilization - one thing, mainly books !? 

How many these refugee scholars and how many books ? Well, no one knows, however, I bet number is much, much smaller then millions of volumes found in Al Andalus libraries of Cordoba, Toledo, Granada, etc. I also know how Orthodox patriarchs of the City and their priests casted anathema on pagan writings of Plato, Aristotle, and rest of the company, burning them on spot. 

But what they have been waiting all along and why ? Are they really needed Turks to take over the "City" so that transfer of their knowledge from Byzantium to Italy start to flow ? 

Maria Angeles Gallego (SOAS, London): (Do you think Muslim-Arabs scholars aren't given due credit ?) It is not something you would learn about in school, probably not even at university. It was probably conscious process of neglecting and now we are still suffering from that. It's really selective history writing.

Duchess of Sidonia: "This is inheritance of Inquisition, it's live and well"

Santa Sa
Santa Sa

What Constantinople ? Where is that, or when ? Is that a place you / he "linked" with Renaissance in one breath , hence directly connecting ancient Greeks and their wisdom with western civilization, modern science and philosophy, and eventually modern day America ?

I presume, since you are not the first to take that "shortcut", you won't be the last either.

Nat Geo is doing fine job - hacker (?), young face with glasses and all, shamelessly and annoyingly selling same old misconception on the Renaissance - an old misconception sold on us by pretentious late 19th and early 20th century European nationalistic intelligentsia, completely prejudiced and determined to degrade Islamic-Arabic civilization with brand new "science" called "orientalizm", which used to be excellent background for European imperialism and colonialism.

This shameless and annoying revision of history is still live and well - ancient Greek-white-Christian-European wisdom takes on a journey from Constantinople to Florence , after Ottoman-Turks (Asiatic barbarians of course) conquered the "City", and since "City" has long been known for being place full of enlightened Christian scientists, they embark on a journey to Florence in stream of refugee scientists fleeing their town and streets now in total mayhem, and of course they grab the one thing they know will be essential in saving their lives while they are on the run as well as saving humanity, and eventually reinvent the western civilization - one thing, mainly books !? 

How many these refugee scholars and how many books ? Well, no one knows, however, I bet number is much, much smaller then millions of volumes found in Al Andalus libraries of Cordoba, Toledo, Granada, etc. I also know how Orthodox patriarchs of the City and their priests casted anathema on pagan writings of Plato, Aristotle, and rest of the company, burning them on spot. 

But what they have been waiting all along and why ? Are they really needed Turks to take over the "City" so that transfer of their knowledge from Byzantium to Italy start to flow ? 

Maria Angeles Gallego (SOAS, London): (Do you think Muslim-Arabs scholars aren't given due credit ?) It is not something you would learn about in school, probably not even at university. It was probably conscious process of neglecting and now we are still suffering from that. It's really selective history writing.

Duchess of Sidonia: "This is inheritance of Inquisition, it's live and well"