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Captains Q&A

Photo: Captain Dave Marciano watches his son's football game with his wife Nancy and daughter Eva.

Photo: Captain Dave Marciano watches his son's football game with his wife Nancy and daughter Eva. (View larger version)

Photograph by Numa Fernandez / Pilgrim Films & Television

By Patrick J. Kiger

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Q: To consumers who eat sushi, bluefin tuna are pretty much just food on a plate. But professional fishermen, who actually have to go out on the water and bring them in, seem to have a very different view. You seem to regard them with great respect as an adversary. Could you explain?

Bill Monte:  People don't realize it, but these fish are very smart animals. Over the years, they've gotten pretty educated about our tactics, and they're looking for leaders and hooks and lines. They're pretty careful about what they eat.  So we've had to keep adjusting what we're doing, what kind of gear we use. And once you get one, they're not going to give in without a fight.

Kevin Leonowert: bluefin don't get a rest. They migrate from U.S. waters to the Mediterranean, and they're targeted pretty much everywhere they go. Some of these fish have been cruising the oceans for 25 or 30 years, evading fishermen. If they weren't tough and clever, they wouldn't survive.

Dave Carraro: Some people think that fish can't retain information, but I think they do. They know what's right and what seems wrong. I think people are catching fewer bluefin these days because of it. I'm not a biologist, but it seems almost as if some sort of evolution is taking place in a short time, where knowledge is being passed down. We used to catch them on 400-500 pound test lines. Now, we have trouble getting them on 200.

Q: In the movie The Perfect Storm, the captain played by George Clooney is under tremendous pressure to catch as many fish as possible. How much pressure is there in real life?

Kevin Leonowert: Well, I do harpoon fishing, and it's a lot of pressure. You've got the weight of the world on your shoulders. Everybody on the boat sees that fish, but you're the one who has to get it. If you don't make the hit, it's all wasted. And there's a lot of money at stake. I've got a wife at home to support, and two guys on the boat who need to get paid, and the spotter pilot who's looking to get paid, too. But I say to the guys, 'Free your mind, and your ass will follow." (laughs)

Ralph Wilkins: The pressure doesn't bother me. I like living on the edge. That's why I do this. And anything is achievable. If you set your mind to it, you can do it.

Q: What about the danger in your work? Your hometown is a place with a monument to thousands of your predecessors who've lost their lives at sea, and Gloucester is famous for a book and movie, The Perfect Storm, about the loss of a ship and its crew.

Dave Marciano: I think people have the impression that we're a bunch of cowboys out there. We're professionals. In our profession sometimes you have to take risks. But there's a difference between being a go-getter and being careless. I think I walk that line pretty carefully. On the other hand, you've got to make a paycheck, and when the weather gets crappy, some guys don't want to be out there. That makes the fish more valuable for those of us who are willing to push a little harder.

Q: There seems to be a sentiment among Gloucester fishermen that you've been unfairly blamed for the decline of the bluefin population. Could you explain?

Bill Monte: For years, we used to catch so many bluefin that we had monthly quotas a lot of the time, and sometimes a month would only be open for three days, because the boats would catch 100 tons in that time, and then they'd shut us down. But then, for a few years, the fishing declined dramatically, because the herring boats cleaned out all the bait. But they blamed us because there weren't any fish. We went to meetings and complained, "You're killing the bait!" The fish are going to go where there is food—that's the restaurant for them. But since that's stopped, over the last couple of years, we've seen a lot more fish, and big ones that aren't supposed to be out there anymore.

Q: Another thing that's amazing about bluefin fishermen is that you all look fit and athletic, even in middle age. Do you train to prepare for fishing?

Dave Carraro: The fishing is the workout. It's totally anaerobic, from just trying to stand up on a rough day, cranking on the rod, moving things around on the deck. It's an incredible load on your muscles. But it also puts a lot of strain on your body. I've got five ruptured disks in my back. You've got to have good awareness to be able to protect yourself.

5 comments
Rick Riemer
Rick Riemer

Dave has a good point. I've noticed with fishing salmon on the Great Lakes, that you have to offer them something different as these fish will see just about anything that is in the tackle store.

john constantine
john constantine

all speices of fish seem to adapt to the fishing you do an you have to change the way you fish for them i love fishing for rock fis striped bass an you have to change luries allways

Ana Romano
Ana Romano

I think it would be funny if i was on the show and had sea sickness and just puked on everything during one episode. i have many years of acting experience! thank you.

Glenn Costa
Glenn Costa

I worked on the water as a kid and a young man I can understand how these guys feel. I gave it up and went back to school to work as a project manager but I still find time to hed out on ther water but now it is for recreation fishing. I have a lot of respect for all these guys and gals that work on the water for a living and we all should support them so they can make a living.